person, one of the felons running one of these clinics that drew has talked to, can you name one person, one clinic you've actually shut down or stopped paying? >> again, the focus -- you know, again, our focus is rooting out this fraud -- >> right -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> drew, do you have a question? >> i do. mr. douglas, you know, as well as i do, that the audits and investigations branch of your very department, department of healthcare services has been getting at these fraud allegations for five years, not for the past one year but for five years. there were meetings pointing out this fraud. we've heard from the l.a. county health director, dr. jonathan fielding who said he's been very frustrated in the past over state certification and the time it has taken the state to investigate and take action from these bad actors. now, you've been in senior leadership of the department of healthcare services since 2005.